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		<title>By: mattfrizzell</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>mattfrizzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Matt.  I&#039;m &quot;at it&quot; while we speak!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Matt.  I&#8217;m &#8220;at it&#8221; while we speak!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bolton</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 02:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt

I also found my dissertation very difficult to structure, and found major shifts in thinking between my chapters. It took me about a year to write up my research, but six months to do the revisions necessary to make all the garbled text into a coherent whole. 

Keep at it! It eventually comes together, and at some point to have to practice &#039;non-attachment&#039; and just let it go :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt</p>
<p>I also found my dissertation very difficult to structure, and found major shifts in thinking between my chapters. It took me about a year to write up my research, but six months to do the revisions necessary to make all the garbled text into a coherent whole. </p>
<p>Keep at it! It eventually comes together, and at some point to have to practice &#8216;non-attachment&#8217; and just let it go <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TH</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>TH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Matt,

Thanks for your post. You&#039;re a good writer as this blog proves...and yeah, I know that dissertation/academic/technical writing is really different from blog writing...but it&#039;s still writing.

When I was working on my dissertation, I felt like what you have written--trouble with linear, dry style that is required, and no use for outlines. I tended to write all parts of a chapter together rather than going from the start of a chapter to the finish. I&#039;d write a little of one section, leave it, then write a little of another section, and keep writing each section until I could figure out how to write each into the next. Not sure if that makes sense, but it worked for me.

If you&#039;re having trouble with the forest because the focus is on the trees, you might try a reverse outline. A reverse outline means that you do the outline from whatever draft section you&#039;re working on, so that you can get a feel for where you&#039;ve been and get some perspective to figure out where you go next. And whenever you do the next bit, add it to the outline...

Blessings on your journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for your post. You&#8217;re a good writer as this blog proves&#8230;and yeah, I know that dissertation/academic/technical writing is really different from blog writing&#8230;but it&#8217;s still writing.</p>
<p>When I was working on my dissertation, I felt like what you have written&#8211;trouble with linear, dry style that is required, and no use for outlines. I tended to write all parts of a chapter together rather than going from the start of a chapter to the finish. I&#8217;d write a little of one section, leave it, then write a little of another section, and keep writing each section until I could figure out how to write each into the next. Not sure if that makes sense, but it worked for me.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re having trouble with the forest because the focus is on the trees, you might try a reverse outline. A reverse outline means that you do the outline from whatever draft section you&#8217;re working on, so that you can get a feel for where you&#8217;ve been and get some perspective to figure out where you go next. And whenever you do the next bit, add it to the outline&#8230;</p>
<p>Blessings on your journey.</p>
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		<title>By: mattfrizzell</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>mattfrizzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.  I meant &quot;right.&quot;  LOL  Thanks for the editing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.  I meant &#8220;right.&#8221;  LOL  Thanks for the editing!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Flowers</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,  In the fifth sentence of the second paragraph you wrote, &quot;And writing moves from left to write in a linear way of reading.&quot;  Did you mean &quot;right&quot; rather than &quot;write&quot; or does this have some other meaning that I am missing?  I am more of a linear thinker and writing comes pretty easy for me.  That doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that I am a good writer though.  I enjoy reading your work.  It is thought provoking and challenges me.  Keep up the great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,  In the fifth sentence of the second paragraph you wrote, &#8220;And writing moves from left to write in a linear way of reading.&#8221;  Did you mean &#8220;right&#8221; rather than &#8220;write&#8221; or does this have some other meaning that I am missing?  I am more of a linear thinker and writing comes pretty easy for me.  That doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that I am a good writer though.  I enjoy reading your work.  It is thought provoking and challenges me.  Keep up the great work.</p>
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		<title>By: FireTag</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>FireTag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt:

I&#039;ve always found in proposal writing on a tight deadline with millions of dollars at atake or putting out a technical report with Cabinet Secretary&#039;s or Governors&#039; reputations on the line (see -- no pressure!) that things get incredibly impossible. And then they get funny. And then you&#039;re over the hump.

You&#039;ll get the PhD dissertation done, and you&#039;ll go on to even bigger and better things in your explorations of theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always found in proposal writing on a tight deadline with millions of dollars at atake or putting out a technical report with Cabinet Secretary&#8217;s or Governors&#8217; reputations on the line (see &#8212; no pressure!) that things get incredibly impossible. And then they get funny. And then you&#8217;re over the hump.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll get the PhD dissertation done, and you&#8217;ll go on to even bigger and better things in your explorations of theology.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t try so hard to do what is so natural for you...expressing yourself.  Just relax and let it flow.  You ARE an elegant writer, but you are struggling too hard.  Relax and have confidence in what you know and it will just flow onto the paper as you want it to.  Don&#039;t second guess in your editing.  It is like taking a test, if you think about it too much and change the answer, you find out your first answer was actually the correct one.  I don&#039;t know a more talented writer than you, except your wife and I think you two are pretty well matched!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t try so hard to do what is so natural for you&#8230;expressing yourself.  Just relax and let it flow.  You ARE an elegant writer, but you are struggling too hard.  Relax and have confidence in what you know and it will just flow onto the paper as you want it to.  Don&#8217;t second guess in your editing.  It is like taking a test, if you think about it too much and change the answer, you find out your first answer was actually the correct one.  I don&#8217;t know a more talented writer than you, except your wife and I think you two are pretty well matched!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Brown</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I discovered rather later in life (and in my writing/editing career) that I&#039;m definitely a &quot;mind-mapper.&quot; Occasionally I&#039;ve taped six or eight (or more) sheets of paper together just to get a big enough area for a &quot;map.&quot; Then I&#039;d go crazy with circles and lines and arrows. 

I can recall as a student writing essays first, then creating an outline to match it--just so I could turn the outline in first because that&#039;s the way the teacher wanted it done. In fact, it&#039;s hard for me now to remember how I engaged the writing process back in my pre-computer, Smith-Corona electric-typewriter era. I do know that mowing the lawn has always been an incredibly productive time to organize thoughts and work out details on writing projects. Unfortunately (at least in this case) we don&#039;t get enough snow regularly here in western Missouri to do the same with snow-shoveling. But then, that&#039;s also much harder work (especially now that I have a power-assisted lawnmower).

Try to keep reminding yourself, Matt: It&#039;s all good. When you&#039;re ready to write, you&#039;ll write. Just hang in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered rather later in life (and in my writing/editing career) that I&#8217;m definitely a &#8220;mind-mapper.&#8221; Occasionally I&#8217;ve taped six or eight (or more) sheets of paper together just to get a big enough area for a &#8220;map.&#8221; Then I&#8217;d go crazy with circles and lines and arrows. </p>
<p>I can recall as a student writing essays first, then creating an outline to match it&#8211;just so I could turn the outline in first because that&#8217;s the way the teacher wanted it done. In fact, it&#8217;s hard for me now to remember how I engaged the writing process back in my pre-computer, Smith-Corona electric-typewriter era. I do know that mowing the lawn has always been an incredibly productive time to organize thoughts and work out details on writing projects. Unfortunately (at least in this case) we don&#8217;t get enough snow regularly here in western Missouri to do the same with snow-shoveling. But then, that&#8217;s also much harder work (especially now that I have a power-assisted lawnmower).</p>
<p>Try to keep reminding yourself, Matt: It&#8217;s all good. When you&#8217;re ready to write, you&#8217;ll write. Just hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: mattfrizzell</title>
		<link>http://mattfrizzellonline.com/2009/12/18/losing-the-forest-in-the-trees/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>mattfrizzell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SR, thanks for the perspective.  I think I&#039;m somewhere in between.  I started with a proposal and outline before I even started my diss.  As I researched each chapter, however, I got seduced by even more interesting connections.  Once I find a tree, I hang out there for a whole....and I lose the forest.  

Thanks for commenting.  Rock on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SR, thanks for the perspective.  I think I&#8217;m somewhere in between.  I started with a proposal and outline before I even started my diss.  As I researched each chapter, however, I got seduced by even more interesting connections.  Once I find a tree, I hang out there for a whole&#8230;.and I lose the forest.  </p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.  Rock on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rossi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Rossi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, everyone has a different writing style. I like to have a super in-depth outline before I even think about writing, whereas one of my good friends likes to sit and think for hours without writing down a thing or taking a single note. I think he&#039;s crazy, but once he starts writing he can put out a page in less than 15 minutes. Everyone&#039;s different, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, everyone has a different writing style. I like to have a super in-depth outline before I even think about writing, whereas one of my good friends likes to sit and think for hours without writing down a thing or taking a single note. I think he&#8217;s crazy, but once he starts writing he can put out a page in less than 15 minutes. Everyone&#8217;s different, I guess.</p>
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